Ok, so I 'jumped the gun'. I just couldn't wait any longer, haha. I just placed my order through Bud's Gun Shop for a parkerized P11.
Kel tec 380 serial number location, kel tec p11 serial number identifier, kel tec p32 serial number, kel tec p3at serial number year, kel tec pf9 serial no. Kel tec repair SERIAL number added letter A California handguns. I noticed the serial number was RRA-00. Thinking this was a low serial number and probably an early production gun, I contacted Kel-Tec. I was informed my PF-9 was manufactured in 9-2010. I discovered some of the metal mag releases still had the dropping problem. Kel-Tec made a modifications (recently) to the metal mag releases and the mag followers.
I was originally looking at the hard chrome model, but ultimately decided that for a concealment piece, it would be better to have something that isn't at all reflective just in case it would ever make an unintentional appearance. I've had good luck with Bud's in the past and I believe it would be hard to beat their price on the Kel Tec. After the FFL transfer fee, it looks like this little guy is going to be mine for less than $285. In this day and age, I would have never believed that I could have bought an American manufactured handgun with a lifetime warranty for less than $300 without seeing it with my own eyes.
I know Kel Tec isn't a brand that you would want to throw around at a gun club, but I'm willing to take a gamble on it for that kind of money. I guessing this section of the board isn't frequented by too many of our members, but I have another question.:mrgreen: For those of you who own a P11, do you prefer 115, 124, or 147 grain ammo? I've been reading up on the P11 and quite a few people have complaints about the recoil due to the P11's small size and light weight. This leads me to believe that the snappier nature of 115 grain ammo probably isn't the wisest choice. Should this be an indication that 147 is automatically the 'go to' weight or does 124 provide a happy medium of speed and manageable recoil? Like most others, I don't associate 9mm with hard recoil, but if everything I've read is true, I might be in for a surprise. Oh well, the P11 isn't intended to be a range gun anyway.
Any bulletsput through the P11 is going to cause you some discomfort. Shooting one is not much fun. But if you don't intend to shoot it much you just get the cheapest ammo you can to practice and then a good SD ammo to carry. To answer your original question.I wouid never loose a gun but if I lost a P11 it would probably be because I gave it away. Like I said good luck with your new weapon and no matter how much it hurts to shoot it. If you learn to shoot pretty well it will hurt the BG alot more if that time ever comes.
I carry Hornady critical defense in mine, so 115. I startedwith it carrying the 124gr federal.
I don't like the way it shoots out of it. I found mine shoots to POA with the 115. So thats what i use. The ONLY reason i have branched out to a couple other 9mms from my P-11 is that.
You shouldn't dry fire it, and as it was my carry gun that i was using for IDPA, i could not avoid dryfiring on the range. Otherwise i would not have bought 2 m&p's and (again) another glock. I LOVE the way my p-11 carries, shoots like my DA revolvers (alternate carry pistols.) Plenty accurate (although you MUST practice with it, much like a snubby.38) So. But now i have no need (having a couple alternates). I still wont sell mine though. Did a nice fluff & buff, put on trigger 'cover', hogue handa-all jr and pinky extension. Nice holster.
Does it kick. But that is life with a small light gun.
Doesnt kick as much as my PA-63 (fixed barrel, 9mm Mak, aluminum frame). THAT drew blood first session. And NOT from slide bite. Don't think I would buy another P11. Had an early production model and wasn't impressed. First time at the range the rear sight AND disassembly pin blew off the gun.
Besides that, I didn't like the way the gun handled and the trigger pull was atrocious. Put a bad taste in my mouth for quite a few years. Ended up trying Keltecs again after a few years.
Eventually bought both the P32 and P3AT. Both guns turned out to be real gems!
Never a problem with either. It seems like KelTecs overall quality has greatly improved over the years.
Just recently picked up a PF-9 after reading the many good reviews. The gun appears to be put together very well and the aesthetics are good. Haven't yet taken it to the range to try her out so I'm anxious to put her through the paces. The gun is very light and thin, perfect for IWB carry, and the price couldn't be beat considering it even has a lifetime warranty. Now I'm hoping she shoots as well as she looks! Kel -Tec is one of the best in the industry when it comes to customer service.
They really honor their lifetime guarantee. I purchased a P-11 when they first came out years ago. I carried it more than I shot it but still had at least a couple thousand rounds through it. Last year I started to get a few FTF's once in a while not bad but I want a carry gun that has NO FTF. So I called Kel-Tec, and explained everything to them, and told them when I bought the gun.
They told me to send it in and they would upgrade every part on the gun to bring it up to the models they have today. That was great because back in the day the trigger was even worse than they are now. Anyway I sent the gun in, got it back in about 2 weeks with all new parts. The trigger felt much better, however after the second mag on the 1st shot of the third mag the trigger broke. Would not do anything, so another call to Kel-Tec they were very nice and apologized for what had happened. Long story short, when I got the gun back it was a brand new gun. All they did was put my old serial number on it, and I had a brand new gun.
I now have 600 rounds through it without one malfunction. That's why I say they have the best customer service in the industry. I just bought my kel tec p11 blued tonight for 290 with case and an extra S/W 59 series 12 round mag. This is what I can say after a few rounds. It does not kick bad at all, Less then an XDm 40 cal by far. My g/f shoots it with no problem other then the trigger pull and little fingers, and the stiff slide spring.
The trigger is tight with 8.4 lbs (my gun) of pull, about what I want with a piped carry gun. The gun has no safteys to dick around with, other then the snug trigger pull.
And the slide stop is just that. It was not desinged to be pushed to charge the weapon. It's light 14-15 oz's 22oz's with a loaded 12 rd mag installed But I notice it when it is in my waistband. I haven't had and hiccups or malfunctions out of it and I started out with 115 fmj tulammo which is as cheap as it gets.
And worked up to cor bon. The acuracy is better then expected, I can hit vitals at 20 yards easily, I had to learn to stage the trigger a little but now it's easily done. The sights are cheap, but do there job. Under 7 yards it is a point and shoot gun, it points and shoots naturally with all rounds in the heart lung area.
When I benched It I came up with about a 2.25 inch 4 shot group. Not to bad for such a short barrel. All and all I would rate it up around a 9.5 for the ccw type gun above the pf9 (7rounds?) You are not going to notice a 1/4 inch, The weight yeah but more kill ability trumps it in my book. It also holds it's own against much more expensive models as well.
A glock 26 hasn't got anything on this little beast. For the price it cannot be beat, and if trigger pull is an issue, you can get a 4 or 6.5 lb spring kit for the trigger, but it voids the warranty.
(just reinstall stock parts if it needs to be sent in) and they cant tell. I will find the link if requested. I'm happy with it and am glad I didn't listen to all the hype of the internet communtiy because 90% of it is B/S, 5% cant shoot it right and the other 5% have legitimate issues with the weapon.
Kel Tec has one of the best customer services that you could ask for. That is the one thing that everybody does seem to agree on. I hope this helps a little. I just put 50 rounds through my P11 the other day. It has worked flawlessly for the first 150 rounds fired.
It is a nasty little gun, not very much fun to shoot, but it is more accurate than I am at ten yards and packs a good wallop. I like the no external safety design - the trigger pull is soooo. Long that you really have to want to consciously fire the pistol, but my wife has weakened fingers and is unable to pull the trigger. I would replace a lost (eg. Dropped in the lake while fishing) or stolen P11 only after checking out some of the alternatives. The trigger sucks (a piece of electrical wiring 'shrink wrap' made mine more comfortable), and the recoil bites my hand, but I like it for what it is: a small, simple, effective, and powerful handgun with a ten round magazine that has gone bang every time for me. I paid $251 including tax OTD last month at my LGS.
Yes I would I bought my P11 in August of 2011 and it has worked flawlessly. I bought it as a conceal carry weapon not a range gun, so the recoil felt is not an issue.
It is accurate has worked perfectly, it is very concealable, and it does come with a great warranty. I take it to the range every other month and put between 50 to 100 rounds through it. Now after 100 or so rounds your hand feels it, or at least mine does. But if needed in a dangerous situation I hope to only need a couple accurate rounds, from a weapon I can trust. And the P11 is that weapon. Yes I would I bought my P11 in August of 2011 and it has worked flawlessly. I bought it as a conceal carry weapon not a range gun, so the recoil felt is not an issue.
It is accurate has worked perfectly, it is very concealable, and it does come with a great warranty. I take it to the range every other month and put between 50 to 100 rounds through it.
Now after 100 or so rounds your hand feels it, or at least mine does. But if needed in a dangerous situation I hope to only need a couple accurate rounds, from a weapon I can trust. And the P11 is that weapon. I guessing this section of the board isn't frequented by too many of our members, but I have another question.:mrgreen: For those of you who own a P11, do you prefer 115, 124, or 147 grain ammo? I've been reading up on the P11 and quite a few people have complaints about the recoil due to the P11's small size and light weight. This leads me to believe that the snappier nature of 115 grain ammo probably isn't the wisest choice.
Should this be an indication that 147 is automatically the 'go to' weight or does 124 provide a happy medium of speed and manageable recoil? Like most others, I don't associate 9mm with hard recoil, but if everything I've read is true, I might be in for a surprise. Oh well, the P11 isn't intended to be a range gun anyway. I just found this forum, so I apologize for such a late reply to this thread. I bought my KelTek P-11 back in 1998 as a back-up weapon when I was working as a Deputy Sheriff in Florida. Unfortunately the parkerized coating didn't hold up too well between the salt air and sweat, but having a friend who was a gunsmith provided me an opportunity to get it blued.
He did an outstanding job and the bluing has held up impressively. I just picked-up a factory belt clip for it and I will carry the P-11 as my CC weapon. I think I only paid $180 for this puppy new and have not been disappointed with it; compared to $300+ for one now I would say I got a deal. I would most certainly replace it with another P-11 if anything happened to this one.